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How to apply and get the certificate of health registration asTalent passport Chercheur visa holder PT4VLS not VLSTS?

I have arrived in France on 19th January, 2025. On Passport talent Chercheur visa PT4VLS (with the validity of 3 months ) came as a Industrial PhD (CIFRE) student I have to apply for health insurnce. What is the exacf step by step documents required for this? I have visited ameli questionnaire and what tk select in this after Talent passport holder : are you a student or are you an employee? If I select studeng, then in documents its asking a student visa but I hold Passport talent visa. If I select employee and student both, it tells to look for Universal health protection at ameli.fr .

I am getting a bit confused for a step by step documenta and procedure. It would be highly appreciated, if I could get some suggestions and assistance.

Rakshit

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Hello Rakshit,

First, I recommend you to follow instructions of this topic : How to be covered if I am a « Passeport talent » or a « Passeport talent famille » holder ?

Research scientists holding a talent passport must also provide a copy of the convention signed with a french organisation.

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Thank you for your response. However, the link you shared mentions to provide copy of work contract and submit this to Paris CPAM.

My company is saying that they cannot make the contract with the temporary social security number. I have the hosting agreement and promesse d' embauche .
https://www.aide-sociale.fr/numero-securite-sociale-provi...

Since you do not have French nationality, there is a specific form to fill out, as explained here: https://www.aide-sociale.fr/inscription-assurance-maladie...

The above links, are some references I found. Do I need to go to local CPAM with my documents?

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Rakshit,

It is possible to sign a work contract with a temporary social security number, even if you do not yet have one. You will find details in this topic.

The steps and form indicated in the previous link are correct.

It is not necessary to make an appointment to submit your application. You can send your request by post.

Have a nice day.

Rakshit

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Thank you again. Could you just verify once again that I will have to submit my documents in the local CPAM as I live in Rouen, Normandie means local CPAM of Rouen, right? and not the Paris CPAM because my case do not have the work contract but I have a convention (hosting agreement).

Also the link you shared of the discussion I think it is for EU citizens (might be in their case the employer could sign the preliminary document) but me being a non -EU citizen, I then think the link which I shared were the way to move forward.

But please verify my doubt once again whivh I have asked. Thank you and shall be thankful for your response.

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Rakshit,

I can confirm that you must send your application to your local CPAM (in Rouen) with your convention (hosting agreement).

As regards working without a social security number, this rule applies to everyone, as long as you are authorised to work in France.

Have a nice day.

Rakshit

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Hello,

Regarding the previous conversations and links which you shared : https://forum-assures.ameli.fr/questions/3424437-how-to-be-covered-if-i-am-passeport-talent-or-passeport-talent-famille-holder

The link tells that the application with supported documents should be submitted to Paris CPAM in case of Passport Talent Chercheur with a work contract.

If I do not the work contract as mentioned earlier as well, I should submit or send my application with the following documents for non-european citizen

1.) Convention (hosting agreement) photocopy
2.) S1106 Form
3.) Passport photocopy
4.) Visa photocopy (PT4VLS)
5.) RIB proof
6.) Proof of residence
7.) Birth certificate (translated in French and apostiled)

If the above documents mentioned are correct, It will be helpful if you could kindly confirm once again that I should submit the application to local CPAM (Rouen) and not Paris. I know the conversation already answered this but need to confirm this again before submitting the application.

My company said that I need to get the temporary social security number so that they can give me the work contract. Considering this scenario please correct me if any of the above is wrong.

Sincerely,
Rakshit

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Apart from this, I wanted to ask where do I have to apply for temporary social security number: On this website: https://etudiant-etranger.ameli.fr/
If I have to do it on the website in the link; there is questionnaire asked, considering my situation being a Industrial PhD candidate (CIFRE PhD) and (Passport Talent Visa holder with PT4VLS mark and 3 months validity) what should I select from the questionnaire options?

1.) What is your situation?
a.) student without professional activity, b.) student with professional activity, C.) Phd/Researcher, D.) Talent passport holder

If I select option C, then it asks for if i am a postdoctoral (which is no in my case), then it asks Do I hold a research allowance/doctoral contract (which I believe I have because I have the hosting agreement convention). After selecting "Yes" to this, the website says: Check section “How to apply for universal health protection entitlements”

If I select option D, then it ask are you a student (I answered yes to this because I am a PhD candidate), then it asks are you an employee (I answer no to this ), then the website says eligible for registration in 4 steps.

Could you tell which option is right for me and the correct way to submit the application ?

If I do not have to do the submission on the website, then what is the other procedure? Do I have to physically visit my local CPAM (considering your answer from previous replies).

I shall be thankful for the response.

Sincerely.
Rakshit

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Hello Rakshit,

As our ameli expert Betty said previously, if you do not have a French contract but just a hosting agreement, all your documents must be sent to your local CPAM, Rouen for you. And it is not necessary to visit the office in person, send your materials through post will be enough.

Also, I precise that our website etudiant-etranger.ameli.fr is relevant only when you are registered as a student in a french university or higher school.

Have a nice day.

Rakshit

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Thank you for your response. As I had a call from ameli english helpline yesterday, they mentioned that I have to submit the file with supporting documents to Paris CPAM (Assurance Maladie de Paris, SRI / Talents, 75948 Paris Cedex 19). I mentioned that I have a hosting agreement (convention) and not the work contract. They still said that it should be Paris CPAM because I hold some kind of offer in my hand.

Apart from this, as I mentioned previously I am a industrial PhD (CIFRE program) with collaboration with a company. But I am also now enrolled in ENSAM Paris, that is why I am getting confused where to file in the application.