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    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:00:09 GMT</pubDate>
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  <title>Réponse de Sinstaller en France</title>
  <dc:creator>Sinstaller en France</dc:creator>
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          &lt;div class=&quot;body-bd&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;The problems might be the same but the information requested is different. Also, my girlfriend who’s French got a letter of confirmation when she came back to France and filed just last year. Bonne journée.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:00:09 GMT</pubDate>
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          &lt;div class=&quot;body-bd&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why is it so hard for EU Citizens to get their CV and settle in France?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Despite having had the opportunity to meet with a CPAM employee in person to assure that my application was complete, the process is very difficult:&lt;br /&gt;1. Never received confirmation that my application was received. Had to call English line several times first. &lt;br /&gt;2. More than 2 months before I was told that my application was with the correct agent who was going to contact me via phone or email. Never heard anything. &lt;br /&gt;3. After 3 months I received a letter asking for much of the same information I had submitted. Maybe a way to slow down the process? I’m an EU citizen.&lt;br /&gt;5. I called again for guidance and was told they could not view the letter the agent sent in the system. The person was frustrated.&lt;br /&gt;6. Mailed documents (some again) and I waited 2 weeks before calling to confirm receipt but it took me another 1 1/2 weeks to get the English line before anyone answered. “Exeptionally Closed.”&lt;br /&gt;7. When I got through, a month after the letter was mailed, they told me that they have no record of receiving my letter. &lt;br /&gt;8. They sent an email to my case worker asking him/her to confirm receipt of the letter. I’m not sure I will hear back. At ~6 mo I’m waiting for an email that I’m pretty sure I won’t receive. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I need my Carte and my Social Security number.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At least 10 foreigners who have or are trying to settle in France have told me similar stories. The process appears to be broken.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  <title>Réponse de Elryn</title>
  <dc:creator>Elryn</dc:creator>
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          &lt;div class=&quot;body-bd&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;No it&amp;#39;s same, when french people send document there is no confirmation that it&amp;#39;s received.&lt;br /&gt;People says they will phone back or mail back and never do&lt;br /&gt;They ask again document already sent after months&lt;br /&gt;They cannot see the letter sent even for french people&lt;br /&gt;English line or normal line are often closed&lt;br /&gt;For the 7 it happens same for french people&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;so no it,s &amp;#39;not only for foreigners.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:17:42 GMT</pubDate>
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          &lt;div class=&quot;body-bd&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why is it so hard for EU Citizens to get their CV and settle in France?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Despite having had the opportunity to meet with a CPAM employee in person to assure that my application was complete, the process is very difficult:&lt;br /&gt;1. Never received confirmation that my application was received. Had to call English line several times first. &lt;br /&gt;2. More than 2 months before I was told that my application was with the correct agent who was going to contact me via phone or email. Never heard anything. &lt;br /&gt;3. After 3 months I received a letter asking for much of the same information I had submitted. Maybe a way to slow down the process? I’m an EU citizen.&lt;br /&gt;5. I called again for guidance and was told they could not view the letter the agent sent in the system. The person was frustrated.&lt;br /&gt;6. Mailed documents (some again) and I waited 2 weeks before calling to confirm receipt but it took me another 1 1/2 weeks to get the English line before anyone answered. “Exeptionally Closed.”&lt;br /&gt;7. When I got through, a month after the letter was mailed, they told me that they have no record of receiving my letter. &lt;br /&gt;8. They sent an email to my case worker asking him/her to confirm receipt of the letter. I’m not sure I will hear back. At ~6 mo I’m waiting for an email that I’m pretty sure I won’t receive. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I need my Carte and my Social Security number.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At least 10 foreigners who have or are trying to settle in France have told me similar stories. The process appears to be broken.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  <title>Réponse de Sinstaller en France</title>
  <dc:creator>Sinstaller en France</dc:creator>
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          &lt;div class=&quot;body-bd&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Elryn - Unfortunately you are incorrect. I would suggest you familiarize yourself with the requirements for French people vs. foreigners. Merci.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2024 13:06:21 GMT</pubDate>
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          &lt;div class=&quot;body-bd&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why is it so hard for EU Citizens to get their CV and settle in France?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Despite having had the opportunity to meet with a CPAM employee in person to assure that my application was complete, the process is very difficult:&lt;br /&gt;1. Never received confirmation that my application was received. Had to call English line several times first. &lt;br /&gt;2. More than 2 months before I was told that my application was with the correct agent who was going to contact me via phone or email. Never heard anything. &lt;br /&gt;3. After 3 months I received a letter asking for much of the same information I had submitted. Maybe a way to slow down the process? I’m an EU citizen.&lt;br /&gt;5. I called again for guidance and was told they could not view the letter the agent sent in the system. The person was frustrated.&lt;br /&gt;6. Mailed documents (some again) and I waited 2 weeks before calling to confirm receipt but it took me another 1 1/2 weeks to get the English line before anyone answered. “Exeptionally Closed.”&lt;br /&gt;7. When I got through, a month after the letter was mailed, they told me that they have no record of receiving my letter. &lt;br /&gt;8. They sent an email to my case worker asking him/her to confirm receipt of the letter. I’m not sure I will hear back. At ~6 mo I’m waiting for an email that I’m pretty sure I won’t receive. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I need my Carte and my Social Security number.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At least 10 foreigners who have or are trying to settle in France have told me similar stories. The process appears to be broken.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  <title>Réponse de Sabine</title>
  <dc:creator>Sabine</dc:creator>
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          &lt;div class=&quot;body-bd&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hello Sinstaller en France,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In order to obtain an answer, I will advise you to write to the &quot;Médiateur&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You will find the process on the website ameli.fr : &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ameli.fr/assure/droits-demarches/reclamation-mediation-voies-de-recours/saisir-mediateur&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Comment saisir le médiateur ?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Have a nice day.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2024 12:48:33 GMT</pubDate>
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          &lt;div class=&quot;body-bd&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why is it so hard for EU Citizens to get their CV and settle in France?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Despite having had the opportunity to meet with a CPAM employee in person to assure that my application was complete, the process is very difficult:&lt;br /&gt;1. Never received confirmation that my application was received. Had to call English line several times first. &lt;br /&gt;2. More than 2 months before I was told that my application was with the correct agent who was going to contact me via phone or email. Never heard anything. &lt;br /&gt;3. After 3 months I received a letter asking for much of the same information I had submitted. Maybe a way to slow down the process? I’m an EU citizen.&lt;br /&gt;5. I called again for guidance and was told they could not view the letter the agent sent in the system. The person was frustrated.&lt;br /&gt;6. Mailed documents (some again) and I waited 2 weeks before calling to confirm receipt but it took me another 1 1/2 weeks to get the English line before anyone answered. “Exeptionally Closed.”&lt;br /&gt;7. When I got through, a month after the letter was mailed, they told me that they have no record of receiving my letter. &lt;br /&gt;8. They sent an email to my case worker asking him/her to confirm receipt of the letter. I’m not sure I will hear back. At ~6 mo I’m waiting for an email that I’m pretty sure I won’t receive. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I need my Carte and my Social Security number.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At least 10 foreigners who have or are trying to settle in France have told me similar stories. The process appears to be broken.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  <title>Réponse de Elryn</title>
  <dc:creator>Elryn</dc:creator>
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          &lt;div class=&quot;body-bd&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;It’s same for everyone even french people&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2024 10:48:00 GMT</pubDate>
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          &lt;div class=&quot;body-bd&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why is it so hard for EU Citizens to get their CV and settle in France?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Despite having had the opportunity to meet with a CPAM employee in person to assure that my application was complete, the process is very difficult:&lt;br /&gt;1. Never received confirmation that my application was received. Had to call English line several times first. &lt;br /&gt;2. More than 2 months before I was told that my application was with the correct agent who was going to contact me via phone or email. Never heard anything. &lt;br /&gt;3. After 3 months I received a letter asking for much of the same information I had submitted. Maybe a way to slow down the process? I’m an EU citizen.&lt;br /&gt;5. I called again for guidance and was told they could not view the letter the agent sent in the system. The person was frustrated.&lt;br /&gt;6. Mailed documents (some again) and I waited 2 weeks before calling to confirm receipt but it took me another 1 1/2 weeks to get the English line before anyone answered. “Exeptionally Closed.”&lt;br /&gt;7. When I got through, a month after the letter was mailed, they told me that they have no record of receiving my letter. &lt;br /&gt;8. They sent an email to my case worker asking him/her to confirm receipt of the letter. I’m not sure I will hear back. At ~6 mo I’m waiting for an email that I’m pretty sure I won’t receive. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I need my Carte and my Social Security number.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At least 10 foreigners who have or are trying to settle in France have told me similar stories. The process appears to be broken.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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